My original thinking was to have shoreline chargers to the batteries with solar panels to keep them topped up. We would have a 5KV travel pack on the Beta 50 supplemented with a separate diesel powered generator to cope with the oven etc when not on shore power. Both Ken and Julia advised against this last option as at £12K on board price was a bit excessive and Ken felt this would take up far to much valuable space in the back cabin.
Following our discussion we have obviously dropped the idea of an electric oven as the 3.8KV/hr consumption would be far too much, so we settled for a gas oven, much more practical.
Ken suggested we could go for a cheaper £4K on board option of more expensive but greater capacity batteries and having more of them. He also added the 5KV travel pack may no longer be available due to belt issues and so we may have to settle for the standard 3.5KV shipped with the Beta. I've sent him the list below and wait to see what he says.
Unit | Amp/Hr | Watts | Voltage | |
Res med Pump | 2.50 | 240 or 12 | ||
Acer laptop charger | 1.50 | 240 | ||
Samsung Netbook Charger | 1.00 | 240 | ||
Mobile phone chargers | 0.15 | 240 | ||
Steve camera charger | 0.65 | 240 | ||
Chris camera charger | 0.20 | 240 | ||
Chris Hair Dryer | 9.17 | 2200 | 240 | |
Chris hair straighteners | 0.13 | 30 | 240 | |
Steve toothbrush charger | 0.01 | 240 | ||
Bose V35 unit (console and Base) | 1.54 | 370 | 240 | |
Washer Dryer | 6.25 | 1500 | 240 | |
Dishwasher | 5.00 | 1200 | 240 | |
Fridge | 12 | |||
Iron | 9.17 | 2200 | 240 | |
TV | 0.73 | 175 | 240 | |
Lighting | 13.00 | 24 | ||
Total (If in use symaltaniously) | 50.99 |
The white goods like washing machine, fridge etx are only guestimates based on average applicance consumption measurers. The lighting figure can be reduced by using LED as we plan. I've also not included wireless routers etc as I doubt we would have these on unless we went online. I've also not included TV freeview units as we are not sure what we are having just yet.
This is quite a basic list and yes it does not take into any account of cable sizes, distances run and so on. I'm no electrician so am happy to rely on Ken's experience in these matters.
I was though, quite shocked to see just how much theses things take out of the system. Clearly we wont be using them all at the same time but I think Chris is going to have to look at a lower rated hairdryer and iron.
It's becoming more an more apparent these days that electrical items are going to become more common on boats, Ipods, Laptops, the internet, Game stations, Ipads, MP3 players are all common household luxuries afforded by most people these days so electrical capacity is going to be more and more of an issue. We are no differant and I confess to be a gadget man myself so I am hoping Ken's answer will be one we can live with
4 comments:
Have you thought about a Hybrid engine? Have a look at the January 2012 Canalboat Magazine - they did a test on a Kingsground boat called Barneswood.
We too are hoping to include an electric oven and are definately going the hybrid route.
NB Muleless (not yet constructed)
Our boat is all electric and we continuously cruise.
Washer/dryer, fan oven, electric hob, fridge, freezer, large screen TV, satellite receiver, Hi-Fi, laptop.
All power supplied by Cummins Onan 7Kw diesel generator, Battery bank is 330 amp.hrs at 24v. Batteries are Victron Gel , deep cycle.
All control is via a Victon combi 24v. 2Kva. 50 amp (charger)
All heavy duty equipment oven, hob, washer/dryer etc. is only used when generator is running.
Works for us
OOOOOPPPSSS!!!!
Sorry typo in the last comment.
The batteries are AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) Deep Cycle
Hi both,
I like the idea of the hybrid engine as this might suit our needs. I'll discuss this with Fernwoods to see what they think.
Keith
I think these are the batteries Ken had in mind as the name sound familiar and we'll probably end up with them.
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